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Espresso Machine With Grinder or a Separate Grinder? The Real Trade-Off
By EspressoGoods editors · Updated 2026-11-09 · How we research
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Short answer
Buy an espresso machine with a grinder if one box and one plug matter more than upgrading later; the Breville Barista Express and CASABREWS Marenza are the common entry points. Buy a separate machine and grinder, such as a Breville Bambino plus a Baratza Encore ESP, if you want to replace either part on its own. At list prices the pair can cost less, and two boxes fit where one wide one can't.
Add up the list prices and an espresso machine with grinder can cost more than the two parts bought separately. Breville lists its Barista Express, with a grinder inside, at around $700. Its Bambino plus Baratza's Encore ESP grinder list at around $500 together. The live prices on the cards below move daily, but at list price every all-in-one Breville in our catalogue costs more than that pair, so check before you assume the all-in-one is the cheaper route.
Price is only one line of the decision. A built-in grinder saves a plug, a footprint and a step; a separate grinder can be upgraded, repaired or moved to your next machine. This page sets the two routes side by side using makers' published specs, lists every built-in grinder machine in our catalogue with its grind settings, and points out the setups that tend to go wrong.

Built-in grinder machines, and the separate pair to compare them with
1. Lowest list price with a built-in grinder
CASABREWS Marenza
CASABREWS lists a built-in conical burr grinder with automatic or manual dosing, a 58 mm portafilter, PID and a thermoblock heater, at 8.9 in wide. Its own sources disagree on the grinder: the spec table says 15 settings, the product description and Amazon listing say 30.
Buy it if: A first all-in-one on a budget, on a narrow counter. Skip it if: You want a single, settled grind-setting figure from the maker.
- Type
- Semi-automatic
- Heating
- Thermoblock Heating System
- PID
- Yes
- Grinder
- integrated conical burr grinder; spec table: 15 Settings, bean hopper 6.35 oz / 180 g (product description and Amazon listing say 30 settings)
- Portafilter
- 58 mm
- Milk
- steam wand
- Water tank
- 57.49 oz / 1.7 L
- Size (W×D×H)
- 11.81'' x 8.9'' x 15.04''
- Weight
- 16.06 lb
Specs: CASABREWS US product page (2026-11-09); CASABREWS listing on Amazon (2026-11-09)
2. The common all-in-one
Breville Barista Express
Breville lists steel conical burrs with 16 grind settings, a 54 mm portafilter with single and dual wall baskets, a Thermocoil heater with PID and a pressure gauge. Breville says bean to espresso takes less than a minute. Breville lists it at 15.9 in tall, with a half-pound bean hopper on top.
Buy it if: Buyers who want one plug and a manual steam wand. Skip it if: You expect to upgrade the grinder later.
- Type
- Semi-automatic
- Heating
- Thermocoil
- PID
- Yes
- Grinder
- integrated conical burr grinder, steel conical burrs, 16 precision grind settings
- Portafilter
- 54 mm
- Milk
- steam wand (manual milk texturing)
- Water tank
- 67 oz; bean hopper 1/2 lb
- Size (W×D×H)
- 15.9 x 13.1 x 12.4 in as printed on Breville's page; Breville's own Amazon listing gives a 15.9 in height, so the page's first figure is the height and its W×D labelling can't be relied on
- Weight
- 22.09 lb
Specs: Breville US product page (2026-11-09); Breville listing on Amazon (2026-11-09)
3. Built-in grinder with lever tamping
De'Longhi La Specialista Opera
De'Longhi lists a conical burr grinder with 15 settings, Smart Tamping that tamps with 20 kg of even pressure when you pull a lever, PID, an Advanced Thermoblock and four filters in single and double wall. It also lists a manual commercial-style steam wand.
Buy it if: People who want the tamp done the same way every time. Skip it if: You need a confirmed width; De'Longhi's published axis order is unclear.
- Type
- Semi-automatic
- Heating
- Advanced Thermoblock
- PID
- Yes
- Grinder
- conical burr, 15 grind settings
- Milk
- commercial-style steam wand (manual)
- Water tank
- 2285.83 (maker data field labelled oz; unit unclear)
- Size (W×D×H)
- 14 x 15 x 17.5 in (maker label: L x W x H)
- Weight
- 38.48 lb
Specs: De'Longhi US product page (2026-11-09); De'Longhi listing on Amazon (2026-11-09)
4. Grinds, doses and tamps for you
Breville Oracle Jet
Breville lists Baratza European Precision Burrs with 45 settings, automatic grind, dose and tamp into a 58 mm portafilter, and Auto MilQ hands-free milk. It is the most expensive built-in model we list here and, at 16.6 in tall on Breville's Amazon listing, one of the two tallest.
Buy it if: Milk-drink households that want the least manual work short of a super-automatic. Skip it if: Your budget is under $2,000 or your counter is shallow.
- Type
- Semi-automatic
- Heating
- ThermoJet
- Grinder
- Baratza European Precision Burrs, 45 grind settings; auto grind, dose & tamp
- Portafilter
- 58 mm
- Milk
- Auto MilQ hands-free milk texturing (dairy, soy, almond, oat settings)
- Heat-up (maker)
- fast heat up achieves the optimum extraction temperature in seconds
- Water tank
- 2.3L / 77 fl.oz water tank; 340g / 12oz bean hopper
- Size (W×D×H)
- 16.6 x 14.2 x 14.9 in as printed on Breville's page; Breville's own Amazon listing gives a 16.6 in height, so the page's first figure is the height and its W×D labelling can't be relied on
- Weight
- 27.78 lb
Specs: Breville US product page (2026-11-09); Breville listing on Amazon (2026-11-09)
5. Machine half of the separate pair
Breville Bambino
Breville lists a ThermoJet heater ready in 3 seconds, PID, a 54 mm portafilter with single and dual wall baskets and a manual steam wand, at 7.7 in wide. Paired with a separate espresso grinder it makes two small boxes you can arrange around a sink or a kettle.
Buy it if: Building a two-box setup on a small counter. Skip it if: You want hands-free milk; that is the Bambino Plus.
- Type
- Semi-automatic
- Heating
- ThermoJet
- PID
- Yes
- Portafilter
- 54 mm
- Milk
- steam wand (manual milk texturing)
- Heat-up (maker)
- ready to start in 3 seconds
- Water tank
- 47 fl.oz
- Size (W×D×H)
- 7.7 x 12.6 x 12.2 in (W x D x H, Breville listing on Amazon)
- Weight
- 10.42 lb
Specs: Breville US product page (2026-11-09); Breville listing on Amazon (2026-11-09)
6. Grinder half of the separate pair
Baratza Encore ESP
Baratza sells the Encore ESP for espresso: 40 mm steel conical burrs, micro-steps 1–20 for espresso and macro-steps 21–40 for filter, and a burr that comes out without tools. At 5.1 in wide it leaves room beside a compact machine.
Buy it if: A first espresso grinder you can keep when you change machines. Skip it if: You want stepless adjustment.
- Burrs
- 40mm Conical Steel (M2)
- Espresso
- Maker sells it for espresso
- Settings
- 40
- Hopper
- 300g (10.6oz)
- Size (W×D×H)
- 13 x 15 x 34 cm (W x D x H)
- Weight
- 5.56 lb
Specs: Baratza US product page (2026-11-09); Baratza listing on Amazon (2026-11-09)
Product prices and availability are accurate as of 2026-11-13 and are subject to change. Amazon prices are for the colour linked. Specs are the makers' published figures; we don't test machines.
Find the espresso machines that fit you
Answer what matters; leave the rest on “Any”. Matching uses only the makers' published specs and today's prices.
CASABREWS Marenza
Semi-automatic · Flash heater · 58 mm · 8.9 in wide
Why it fits: Built-in grinder
Philips 2200 Series (classic milk frother)
Super-automatic · 9.7 in wide
Why it fits: Built-in grinder
Ninja Luxe Café Mini
Semi-automatic · 12.2 in wide
Why it fits: Built-in grinder
Philips 3300 Series LatteGo
Super-automatic · 9.7 in wide
Why it fits: Built-in grinder
De'Longhi Magnifica Evo (LatteCrema)
Super-automatic · Flash heater
Why it fits: Built-in grinder
Ninja Luxe Café Premier
Semi-automatic · 13.39 in wide
Why it fits: Built-in grinder
De'Longhi La Specialista Touch
Semi-automatic · Flash heater · 11.22 in wide
Why it fits: Built-in grinder
De'Longhi La Specialista Opera
Semi-automatic · Flash heater
Why it fits: Built-in grinder
De'Longhi Magnifica Start
Super-automatic · Flash heater
Why it fits: Built-in grinder
Breville Barista Express
Semi-automatic · Flash heater · 54 mm
Why it fits: Built-in grinder
Ninja Luxe Café Pro (4-in-1)
Semi-automatic · 12.48 in wide
Why it fits: Built-in grinder
Breville Barista Express Impress
Semi-automatic · Flash heater · 54 mm
Why it fits: Built-in grinder
Showing the 12 lowest-priced matches. Narrow an answer, or open the compare tab to see all of them.
Near misses (one requirement short)
- Wacaco Minipresso GR $46.90 · missing: built-in grinder
- Chefman CraftBrew Espresso Machine $79.97 · missing: built-in grinder
- CASABREWS 3700 Essential $99.99 · missing: built-in grinder
- De'Longhi Stilosa $139.95 · missing: built-in grinder
Specs are each maker's published figures (source linked per machine). Amazon prices as of 2026-11-13; prices change. We earn from qualifying purchases; it never affects matching or order, which is lowest price first.
Built-in versus separate, line by line
The table compares the two routes on the questions that actually separate them. Where a row uses a number, it comes from the makers' spec pages for the Breville Barista Express, Breville Bambino and Baratza Encore ESP, the most common pairing people weigh against each other.
The same arithmetic holds further up Breville's range. The Barista Pro, with a 30-setting grinder inside, lists at around $850; a Bambino with Breville's own Smart Grinder Pro (60 settings) lists at around $500. The gap narrows or reverses on Amazon, where the Barista Express's live price can sit well below Breville's list, so read the cards rather than our list figures before deciding on cost alone.
| Question | Machine with built-in grinder | Separate machine + grinder |
|---|---|---|
| List cost (example) | Barista Express: around $700 | Bambino + Encore ESP: around $500 combined |
| Counter size | One box, 15.9 in tall (Breville's width figure is not reliably published) | 7.7 in + 5.1 in = 12.8 in wide, in two boxes you can arrange |
| Grind settings | 16 (Barista Express) | 40, with steps 1–20 reserved for espresso (Encore ESP) |
| Plugs and switches | One | Two |
| Upgrade path | Grinder stays with the machine | Replace either part on its own |
| If the grinder needs repair | The whole machine goes in for service | Only the grinder goes; you can borrow or buy a stopgap |
| Grinding straight into the portafilter | Yes, built in | Depends on the grinder: Breville's Smart Grinder Pro includes 50–54 mm and 58 mm cradles |
Which grinder setting count means what
Every built-in machine lists a number of grind settings, and buyers tend to read that number as quality. It isn't. A setting count tells you how many clicks the adjustment has across its whole range, not how finely each click is spaced in the espresso zone. Baratza's Encore ESP makes the point by design: of its 40 settings, steps 1 to 20 are micro-steps for espresso and 21 to 40 are macro-steps for filter coffee.
Why it matters: Breville's Barista Express manual says the grind should be fine but not too fine. Too fine and water will not flow through the coffee under pressure, giving an over-extracted, dark and bitter shot. Too coarse and the water runs through too quickly, giving an under-extracted shot lacking colour and flavour. Baratza adds that small changes in grind size can move a cup from sour to balanced or from bitter to sweet. You need enough steps in the fine end to land between those failures.
The chart shows the grind settings each maker publishes for the built-in semi-automatic machines in our catalogue. Use it to compare like with like, not to rank them.
When the all-in-one is the right call
A built-in grinder earns its place when the convenience is what you are buying. If the alternative is that you would not bother grinding fresh at all, the one-box machine wins easily, because Breville's own manuals tie single wall baskets, the ones that reward fresh grinding, to freshly ground whole beans.
It also wins when the machine does more with the grind than a separate grinder can. Breville's Oracle Jet grinds, doses and tamps on its own; De'Longhi's La Specialista Opera tamps with a lever; Ninja's Luxe Café Premier doses by weight, and the Meraki has built-in dual scales. Those features depend on the grinder being inside the machine.
Finally, a single box is simpler for a shared kitchen: one thing to switch on, one thing to wipe down, and no question about which grinder setting goes with which machine.
Milk is the other reason people pick an all-in-one. Several built-in grinder machines also automate the steam wand: Breville lists hands-free milk texturing on the Barista Touch and Auto MilQ on the Barista Touch Impress and Oracle Jet, De'Longhi lists an automatic steam wand with five froth levels and four temperatures on the La Specialista Touch, and Ninja lists its Dual Froth System on the Luxe Café Premier. If you want both the grind and the milk handled, these are the models to shortlist.
Where the separate route wins
The separate route wins on flexibility. Your grinder is likely to outlive your first machine, and an espresso-capable grinder moves with you to whatever you buy next. If you start on a Bambino and later move to a 58 mm machine, a grinder like the Fellow Opus 2, whose espresso dosing cup Fellow says fits 54 mm and 58 mm portafilters, comes along.
It wins on layout more often than you might expect. The Bambino and Encore ESP together come to 12.8 in wide by Breville's and Baratza's figures. We can't set that against Breville's all-in-ones, because Breville's product pages and its own Amazon listings disagree on which of their dimensions is the width; the figure both agree on is height, 15.7 to 16.6 in for those models. Two boxes can also go in an L-shape or on either side of a sink, which one wide box cannot.
And it wins when something breaks. A grinder fault on an all-in-one takes your espresso machine out of service with it; with two boxes, you can keep making coffee with a stopgap grinder while the other is repaired.
You also get to choose the grinder's design, not just its brand. The separate grinders in our catalogue that their makers sell for espresso range from stepped conical models such as the Encore ESP (40 settings) and Breville Smart Grinder Pro (60 settings) to stepless designs: the Fellow Opus 2 with 48 mm conical burrs and the MiiCoffee DF54, a single-dose grinder with 54 mm flat burrs whose maker claims under 0.1 g retention. No built-in grinder offers that range of choice.
Setups that go wrong
Most disappointing grinder setups come down to one of three mismatches. Check each before you order.

- A grinder that can't go fine enough. Baratza positions its standard Encore for filter coffee and the Encore ESP for espresso. Buying the filter model to save a little leaves you short at the fine end.
- Pre-ground coffee in single wall baskets. Breville says dual wall baskets are for pre-ground coffee because they regulate pressure regardless of grind, dose, tamp or freshness. Pre-ground in a single wall basket usually runs too fast.
- A built-in grinder you have outgrown. An integrated grinder cannot be swapped. If you already suspect you will want finer control, the separate route avoids buying twice.
- A machine too deep for your counter under the cabinets. All-in-ones are tall: Breville lists the Barista Express Impress and the Oracle Jet at 16.6 in, before you add room to fill the bean hopper on top. Breville's published depths for them conflict with its own listings, so measure both the space and the machine.
Bean hoppers, widths and what each built-in machine holds
If you settle on a built-in grinder, compare the practical numbers too. Hopper size decides how often you refill, and width decides whether it fits at all.
Dosing is where the built-in models differ most from each other. Breville says the Barista Express Impress adjusts the next dose automatically (Auto Dose Correct) and assists the tamp; Ninja's Luxe Café models dose by weight; the Meraki weighs dose and yield on built-in scales; the Oracle Jet grinds, doses and tamps without you touching the portafilter. The Barista Express and Marenza leave dosing to timed grinding and your own judgement, which is where a cheap kitchen scale earns its place.
| Machine | Grinder (maker's words) | Bean hopper | Width | Depth |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| CASABREWS Marenza | Conical burr, 15 (or 30) settings | 180 g | 8.9 in | 11.81 in |
| De'Longhi La Specialista Touch | Conical burr, 15 settings | — | 11.22 in | 14.37 in |
| Ninja Luxe Café Premier | Conical burr, 25 settings, weight-based dosing | — | 13.39 in | 12.99 in |
| Breville Barista Express | Steel conical burrs, 16 settings | 1/2 lb | not reliably published | not reliably published |
| Breville Barista Pro | Steel conical burrs, 30 settings | 1/2 lb | not reliably published | not reliably published |
| Breville Oracle Jet | Baratza European Precision Burrs, 45 settings | 340 g / 12 oz | not reliably published | not reliably published |
Questions people ask
- Is an espresso machine with a grinder worth it?
- It is worth it if convenience is the priority and you don't plan to upgrade the grinder. If you want the option to replace parts separately, a machine plus a dedicated espresso grinder often costs about the same or less and takes less width.
- What is the cheapest espresso machine with a built-in grinder?
- Among the semi-automatic machines in our catalogue, the CASABREWS Marenza has the lowest list price, around $300. The Breville Barista Express lists at around $700, though its live price on Amazon can be lower; check the card for today's figure. Note that CASABREWS publishes two different grind-setting counts for the Marenza (15 and 30).
- Can I use pre-ground coffee in a machine with a built-in grinder?
- On most portafilter models, yes: you bypass the grinder and fill the basket yourself. Breville says to use the dual wall basket for pre-ground coffee, and the Barista Express includes both single and dual wall baskets.
- Can I add a better grinder to a machine that already has one?
- Yes. On a semi-automatic with a portafilter, you can grind with a separate grinder and dose into the basket by hand. The built-in grinder simply goes unused, which is why buyers who expect to upgrade often skip it.
- Do built-in grinders grind fine enough for espresso?
- They are designed to; each maker lists its built-in grinder for espresso. What varies is the number of settings and how finely they are spaced. Breville's manual describes the target as fine but not too fine.
- How much counter space does an espresso machine with a grinder need?
- Breville lists its all-in-ones at 15.7 to 16.6 in tall; their width and depth are not reliably published, because Breville's product pages and Amazon listings disagree on the axis order. The CASABREWS Marenza is listed at 8.9 in wide. Leave headroom above for the bean hopper lid. If two boxes suit your space better, a Bambino and an Encore ESP together come to 12.8 in wide.
- Is a super-automatic the same as an espresso machine with a grinder?
- Both have grinders, but a super-automatic also doses, tamps and brews by itself with no portafilter. A semi-automatic with a grinder still has you handle the portafilter and, usually, the milk.
Sources & further reading
- Breville Barista Express BES870 product page (2026-11-09)
- Breville Barista Express BES875 instruction book (2026-11-09)
- Breville Bambino BES450 product page (2026-11-09)
- Breville Oracle Jet BES985 product page (2026-11-09)
- Breville Smart Grinder Pro BCG820 product page (2026-11-09)
- Baratza Encore ESP product page (2026-11-09)
- Baratza, Switching Grind Settings with Confidence (2026-11-09)
- De'Longhi La Specialista Opera EC9555M product page (2026-11-09)
- CASABREWS Marenza product page (2026-11-09)
- Meraki Espresso Machine product page (2026-11-09)
- Fellow Opus 2 product page (2026-11-09)
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